Show HN: Capacitor Alarm Clock

(github.com)

147 points | by arcaege 4 days ago

24 comments

  • rpaddock 1 day ago
    This reminded me of a Blog entry I wrote about in 2013 on "Massive Electro-Pyrotechnic Initiator Chip Resistor (MEPIC)". These are 0805 chip resisters that are by design meant to let out the Magic Smoke that runs all electronic parts.

    Sadly I could not get free samples from my Vishay Rep, that I was in good standing with. MEPIC85N8R0KTT come in lots of 10,000 to buy.

    Be sure to check out the application note "A Guide to Using EPIC / MEPIC Igniters in Pyrotechnic Applications".

    https://www.vishay.com/en/product/53058/

    National Semiconductor, bought by TI, used to make a similar part, check out the application note:

    https://www.ti.com/lit/an/snoa217/snoa217.pdf

    This is what I wrote about the MEPIC parts a long time ago:

    "MEPIC resistors, also known as bridge resistors, are resistive elements that convert electrical energy into heat energy in a precise electro-thermal profile for the purpose of initiating a series of pyrotechnic events in a controlled energetic reaction. [They go BOOM on command, which is different than Rapid Spontaneous Self-Disassembly.]

    The new Vishay Sfernice resistor is optimized for electronic igniter applications in automotive safety systems for the deployment of airbags and other safety devices; digital blasting in mining applications; and in fireworks applications for better synchronization of fireworks, music, and special effects.

    With firing energy down to 1.5 mJ and a typical ohmic range of 2 Ohms (+/- 10 %), the device provides designers with very predictable, reproducible, and reliable behavior.

    Offered in the standard 0805 case size for the wraparound and flip chip versions, with other sizes available upon request, the resistor features easy set-up of firing levels, and is compatible with various pyrotechnic compositions.

    Offering ESD withstanding to 25 kV without extra protection, the MEPIC resistor's performance meets no fire/all fire conditions and the requirements of USCAR, AKLV16, and major car manufacturer standards.

    The device is RoHS-compliant and conforms to Vishay "Green" standards. [Is it not great that Fuzes are 'Green'?]"

    • ForOldHack 9 hours ago
      MEPIC fuses... ok... Green? Oh my!
  • exmadscientist 21 hours ago
    The actual "make it go bang" bit here isn't the most potent. (I think I have capacitors here which wouldn't care in the least about this, despite their datasheet ratings.)

    If you need to take it to the next level, consider something based on a xenon photoflash driver. These aren't as common as they used to be, but they're still not hard to make. I had to make one of these a while back and ended up using one of those $5 LTC chips but that was appropriate for the situation; there are certainly other ways to do it. This will basically charge a 400V capacitor up for you, which you can then dump into the 5V part. High-quality 5V capacitors will handle small spikes of this. But using a big 400V capacitor will make a big spike, which is not kind to the other capacitor. (I must confess I didn't try blowing up a lot of things on the one I made, but it was medical test gear, not technically a capacitor-blower-uper, and I was on deadline anyway. I also had other, significantly more destructive, equipment available to me should that be the goal.)

  • kps 21 hours ago
    I expected an alarm clock using a capacitor for timing. Either charge it to a delay-dependent level, or charge it to a fixed level and discharge through a delay-dependent path, or trigger when it drops below a delay-dependent level.
  • felooboolooomba 1 day ago
    Sorry I'm late, the capacitor didn't blow.

    Did anyone else smell capacitors when they watched the video? The brain does funny things.

  • andai 1 day ago
    There's a video demonstration about halfway down the GitHub

    https://github.com/ArcaEge/capacitor-alarm-clock#Demo

  • uberex 1 day ago
    Based. Unhinged. Don't try this at home.

    But it is also art. It represents the waste in our devices that play out over 1-4 years (or say a few weeks for a vape) but in one night.

    But yeah. Don't do it. Indoors? wtf!!!!

    • nmeofthestate 1 day ago
      Oh no. I quite liked this until you said it was art that Represented something.
      • user_7832 22 hours ago
        To be brutally honest it sounds like LLM speak to me. The account being in green doesn't help.

        The line between an LLM being told to sound like an HN user, and an actual user who's adopted LLM lingo is... vanishingly thin at times. I myself accidentally find myself using such phrases, I can hardly accuse others.

        • uberex 22 hours ago
          I am human, to prove it I have laid down an em-dash below:

  • huydotnet 13 hours ago
    For anyone jumping into this thread hoping to see capacitor use for timing, there is this blog post about something like that:

    https://notes-huy-rocks.translate.goog/posts/diy-pomodoro-ti...

    (google translate link because the original post was in Vietnamese)

  • alnwlsn 21 hours ago
    There are some grades of electrolytic capacitors for which this is probably the only thing they should be used for.
  • beeforpork 1 day ago
    That sounds completely safe and healthy! Hmmmm, I love the smell of vaporized electrolyte, particularly when waking up!
    • fc417fc802 1 day ago
      I feel like a wire detonator would be safer plus the consumables would be cheaper however even then I doubt vaporized copper or aluminum is good for you. Honestly just roll some firecrackers and use the ESP to light them off.
    • gosub100 19 hours ago
      But it's got electrolytes!
  • sscaryterry 1 day ago
    Try this with a tantalum capacitor. Careful not to lose an eye...
    • RetroTechie 41 minutes ago
      LEDs also work if you've got enough energy to dump into them. Think bulky high-voltage cap + beefy MOSFETs.
    • Uncle_Brumpus 23 hours ago
      Luckily our eyes tend to be closed when we're asleep. Evolutionary safety squints.
      • mc3301 11 hours ago
        I'd like to see a study on the threshold of projectiles versus safety squints. I searched around, but couldn't find a paper.
  • nine_k 21 hours ago
    Heh. I hoped to see a fully analog capacitor-based "movement", either a mechanical movement powered by periodic electric pulses, or maybe a device using split-flap displays powered by three highly precise, thermally-compensated capacitor discharge circuits.
  • peterabbitcook 1 day ago
    So it’s not UL listed?

    Do you need the 15V input to torch the capacitors and run the relays? Could I use a 5V USB ESP32 dev board instead, and just put a boost circuit or MOSFET on the relay load side for the explosion circuit when it needs to go off, or are there other components that need the higher voltage?

    • arcaege 18 hours ago
      You could, but from my measurements the capacitor tends to pull ~1A before it bursts, so you'd be running up against the 3A limit of USB. At voltages below 12V, they don't seem to go off reliably.
      • rpaddock 18 hours ago
        Have you tried a backwards polarity tantalum capacitor? I've seen those go off just on their normal voltage when installed backwards. Sometimes immediately and other times with significant delay.

        Eye Projectile and Eye Flash protection along with hearing protection are required.

  • bilsbie 1 day ago
    What’s happening at the electron level that makes them do this? Anyone know?
    • sdlion 23 hours ago
      If I recall correctly, electrolytic capacitors have to get "burned in" during manufacturing to make them work.

      A current is passed through the capacitor and a thin film of oxide is built up in one of the terminals, according to the polarity. This is why electrolytic caps have polarity, if you use them with their polarity inverted, you flake off that oxide layer and thus short them out.

      A free running current in that electrolyte boils it off, and you get an exploding cap

  • gosub100 19 hours ago
    Tangent: I remember when hackaday posts about building cool and or useless circuits were posted constantly to HN. Now I can't remember the last time I saw one. (I know this link isn't hackaday, but it's exactly like what they feature).
  • cmos 22 hours ago
    The perfect alarm clock would start lighting your life dreams on fire if you didn't wake up, cause that's whats happening anyway.
  • inigyou 23 hours ago
    Electroboom did this first, right?
    • piinbinary 23 hours ago
      The README references Electroboom's implementation
  • ahoka 1 day ago
    Is this not technically an IED?
    • NDlurker 23 hours ago
      Doesn't look improvised to me.
    • stackghost 20 hours ago
      This is absolutely how IEDs are made. You buy an old Nokia phone and wire the speaker/ringer to the detonator. Call phone -> boom.

      In fact, TFReadme directly references Electroboom/Mehdi Sadaghdar who did this with an old-school analog alarm clock (the kind with an actual bell) and in the video he muses that it's literally a time bomb, har har get it.

      • fc417fc802 12 hours ago
        > wire the speaker/ringer to the detonator. Call phone -> boom.

        Given the constant stream of spam and scam calls I get that seems like an incredibly bad idea.

  • notahacker 19 hours ago
    Wondering if we can adapt this for our pulsed power system :)
  • PunchyHamster 16 hours ago
    "Sorry I overslept, the capacitor didn't go off" gonna be funny excuse
  • adnaahmed 1 day ago
    the alarm clock for the ai age, it needs an LLM
    • KaiserPro 1 day ago
      It is an LLM

      a Life limiting machine

  • user_7832 22 hours ago
    Nice job OP, and thanks for the demo video! PS to others, keep your volume below 40%.

    ...I may or may not have jumpscared myself by cranking the volume up before the alarm time as it was so quiet.

  • block_dagger 1 day ago
    How about a flux capacitor clock?
  • kavyanshkh 2 days ago
    gng thats crazy!
  • netrap 23 hours ago
    that's a bomb dude.. lmao.. don't take that anywhere!
    • 542354234235 21 hours ago
      Just about anything can be turned into a bomb. Take a coffee cup, a smart watch, and 5 lbs of C4, and it could easily be turned into a bomb, for example.